Scaling Conversations. Dave MacLeod

Scaling Conversations - Dave MacLeod


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racism and discrimination. Trillions of dollars have been allocated in relief from the global pandemic. Businesses around the world have embraced remote communication and pivoted to survive, and sometimes even flourish, in this new world where people are more remotely connected than ever before.

      Crisis, even more than necessity, is the true mother of invention.

      And crisis contains an interesting element. One we need to focus on and leverage if we are going to succeed as a species on this planet.

      A crisis arrives and causes pain. A solution is created and we experience joy. But something bad occurs with that solution and we're back in the pit of crisis. Then we react again and things seem to be fixed and happy. But then another, unrelated, crisis occurs. Damn. So, we make a big change and the change is good. But the change also causes a different kind of crisis and we need to regroup, adjust, and relaunch. This process is best visualized as hills and valleys:

Schematic illustration of the crisis cycle.

      First let's talk about growth. The good news about crisis is that, in retrospect, it is easy to look back at your life and realize that the crises you faced and came through successfully were necessary for your own invention and reinvention. Each challenge created a chance for learning and for opening your heart and mind. Taking that opportunity is what got you through and gave you perspective and increased your resilience. So, rather than simply waves of good and bad that ultimately end bad, instead these peaks and valleys are the materials that allow you to learn and grow. With the right focus on personal development, crisis can ultimately look like this:

Schematic illustration of the crisis cycle representing the growth.

      Growth is important for us humans, and as leaders, and while I don't want to minimize the negative impacts of crisis situations, many of which are caused intentionally by other people, I do want to emphasize the necessity and power of learning from constant adversity. The biggest problem with this concept is this: Crises are really hard. That's why they're called crises. And we need help to make it through and turn them into opportunities. Navigating them is really a team sport. That's why we need to discuss connection.

      Even more than being with you as you grew as a leader, that person you chose is probably someone who was more than that. They were probably an important, maybe even critical, component of your learning and success. Great leaders and mentors are people you have conversations with, and you share where you are stuck, and they listen deeply and share their stories and perspective with you. They help you navigate and thrive through crisis. And the more challenges you navigate with them, the stronger your connection with them becomes. The opportunities for connection with leaders during such crises looks like this:

Schematic illustration of the crisis cycle navigating constant crisis creates constant opportunity to create connection.

      Capital, again, is defined as the assets you have available for your purpose: There are many more forms of capital other than money. And just like a bank machine you need to put capital in the machine first so it's there for you when you need to withdraw. Capital isn't a magic thing you create alone using strong words about your mission and vision. Capital is earned. So, let's discuss three forms of capital you need to earn as a leader: Relationship, Process and Ownership. Then I'll discuss how conversation can help you attain your goals.

       Relationship Capital

      Relationship capital is best described as: Be that friend. The capital you gain from relationships can be generated by being agenda‐free.

      Picture looking at your phone and seeing that a friend is calling you. Without picking up the phone you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, they want something from you. Otherwise, they'd never call. We all have that friend, colleague or family member. Or maybe we are that friend. Who knows?

      Now picture the last time you went out for lunch with a friend and you raced to buy them lunch before they bought it for you. When you see their number come up on your phone you want to make sure you aren't distracted when you pick it up because you're eager to speak with them.

      The next question comes after you reflect on the sorts of things that put capital in your bank for other people: How can this time of unprecedented crisis be a catalyst for unprecedented creation of relationship capital in your organization? How can you be that leader? I'm soon going to dive into how to scale conversations and, before I do, I want to explore first the benefit of scaled conversations in terms of relationship capital.

      There are questions leaders have asked handfuls, hundreds and even thousands of people amidst the coronavirus pandemic to help increase authentic relationship capital:

      What challenges are you experiencing?

      If remote work continues next year, what concerns do you have?

      What hopes and concerns do you have about our future?

      What is on your mind right now?

      These questions scale perfectly from a one‐on‐one conversation to conversations with thousands as everyone shares their concerns, challenges and thoughts. The asker ensures they do the most important thing: Listen. Following listening may come actions, but listening needs to come first.


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